tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post1178444282538247087..comments2023-11-13T00:53:19.336-08:00Comments on Jander Research: WARNING USA: JILL STEIN HAS A DEVIOUS DECEMBER SURPRISE TO OVERTHROW THE ELECTION.Ren Jander Researchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15254808527862317837noreply@blogger.comBlogger87125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-42008313878967326242021-01-26T18:34:43.044-08:002021-01-26T18:34:43.044-08:00I'm Helena Julio from Ecuador,I want to talk g...I'm Helena Julio from Ecuador,I want to talk good about Mr Benjamin on this topic. gives me financial support when all bank in my city turned down my request to grant me a loan of 500,000.00 USD, I tried all i could to get a loan from my banks here in Ecuador but they all turned me down because my credit was low but with god grace I came to know about Mr Benjamin so I decided to give a try to apply for the loan. With God willing they grant me a loan of 500,000.00 USD. The loan request that my banks here in Ecuador have turned me down for, it was really awesome doing business with them and my business is going well now. Email/WhatsApp Contact if you wish to apply for a loan from them.247officedept@gmail.com WhatsApp Contact: +1-989-394-3740.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-57396119035226400972016-12-10T21:19:06.390-08:002016-12-10T21:19:06.390-08:00The electoral college coup is my greatest concern ...The electoral college coup is my greatest concern now, also. I can't imgine they will garner enough support, but we will see. Can you clarify for me this: PA already certified their election, right? If these legal shenanigans are not completed on time will the certified vote be used -- or is it somehow nullified by the recount effort? Thanks for all the helpful information!pcanonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00838900243027752639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-72520158630194833992016-12-07T10:09:02.972-08:002016-12-07T10:09:02.972-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02042192614785123032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-60802100731860704602016-12-07T08:05:21.451-08:002016-12-07T08:05:21.451-08:00Massive fraud found in Detroit, 50 ballots run thr...Massive fraud found in Detroit, 50 ballots run through optic scanner 6 times and Dem votes being counted 6 times. <br />http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/revealed-michigan-recount-uncovers-massive-voter-fraud-detroit-precincts/<br /><br />Trump's presidency is America's only chance to stop the cities from stealing our country. I don't know why the GOP has been so lazy about fighting this. They should be allowed to have monitors with body-mounted cameras in place at every polling place. Ballots should be locked up in a building with locks that require both GOP and Dem rep to open them. Frustratedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07528016403882399594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-61732639110701292592016-12-07T06:05:58.143-08:002016-12-07T06:05:58.143-08:0011-5 R11-5 RAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17492796173834807277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-10276025281881685222016-12-07T02:02:18.508-08:002016-12-07T02:02:18.508-08:00Chatty,
I think the 270 number drops by the EC nu...Chatty,<br /><br />I think the 270 number drops by the EC number of the state if that state is AWOL from the electoral college. If MI, WI, and PA are AWOL, Trump is still elected by the EC.<br /><br />markmMark Mudgetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13953279026505193815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-88003921818959295482016-12-06T23:31:13.693-08:002016-12-06T23:31:13.693-08:00I couldn't understand the Left's take on R...I couldn't understand the Left's take on Russian Hackers until I watched this piece of leftist propaganda. Watch it and you will see what you wrote above is probably their plan. The other side would totally believe it and try Trump for Treason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OauLuWXD_RIAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02042192614785123032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-84271669816514143132016-12-06T22:12:10.037-08:002016-12-06T22:12:10.037-08:00The ONLY chance these people have is two, as I see...The ONLY chance these people have is two, as I see it: <br /><br />1) "Discovering" hacking on multiple machines. The timing on this has to be exquisite. They know the minute it happens, Trumps full attention will be focused on them and thus they must have him penned in immediately in multiple states. This tells me they need to "discover" hacking in multiple states, in multiple machines. Perhaps it hasn't been planted yet, and thus they need multiple people in each state getting access to the machines. It's possible they're waiting on a couple more people to get into position. If this is their course of action, they will strike quick. One "discovery" would be followed by "two", then three, etc.. Before Trump knew what hit him, he would be gang-sucker-punched. <br /><br />2) Find some way, through a combination of Faithless Electors, "found" votes, procedural judicial fiat, and anything else they can throw against the wall, to deny Trump the 270. They desperately wish to deny Trump legitimacy, but this is something bigger. The language coming from the Left is, quite frankly, bordering on treason or screaming fire in a crowded theater. Deliberately inciting fear, hatred, and conjuring up notions of the end of democracy is an incredibly dangerous thing to do. Tons of nutjobs actually believe they are seeing the rise of Hitler. A bunch call themselves the "resistance". Once Trump actually got in, he would establish law and order, but something about their current trendline does not suggest that at all. They speak as if we are heading for war. <br /><br />I just cannot see them being able to sell a Trump loss via procedural maneuvering. Suddenly they discover votes in each state for Hillary? Nobody would buy that. The only plays for them is to either deny Trump the certification of the states or fabricate evidence of hacking. <br /><br />This Orwellian new narrative is also disturbing and must be monitored with vigilance for signs. Terms such as "fake news", "Russian propaganda", Twitter mass bannings, European governments threatening US corps to stamp out "extremism" are all headed somewhere. They telegraph where they wish to head. It is NO COINCIDENCE that Jill Stein is specifically alleging hacking as her reason. It is NO COINCIDENCE that Hillary attempted to paint Trump as a Russian stooge, or that Obama had his executive agencies declaratively say that Russia hacked in this country. Or that the House just passed a law against "Russian propaganda" websites. LISTEN to the lying narrative they wish to paint. <br /><br />Put the pieces together, people. I hope I'm wrong. But literally the only play I see for them is to continue this narrative. Depict Trump as a Russian agent, and by extension, his entire movement. And how do you smear someone? You discover his treason. And not just one instance. Multiple, multiple instances. Russian hacking. An election stained, smeared, discredited. The "fake news" was a pre-emotive strike because they know something is coming and they wish to brand the last truth tellers as TRAITORS when that time comes. That's why censorship is escalating. That's why Twitter just said they're gonna ban Trump. Something is coming. I hope I'm wrong. I hope they fail. God save this country. Diogeneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09297762945923932003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-52790596685732126662016-12-06T21:40:02.121-08:002016-12-06T21:40:02.121-08:00She's literally saying the exact opposite thin...She's literally saying the exact opposite thing: that these new "voters" voted only for President and nobody else. Diogeneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09297762945923932003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-40610393919864858502016-12-06T21:38:21.630-08:002016-12-06T21:38:21.630-08:00Wow. How Trump is not challenging this is insane. ...Wow. How Trump is not challenging this is insane. We have got to get this to him. Diogeneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09297762945923932003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-476684056227850492016-12-06T21:37:05.005-08:002016-12-06T21:37:05.005-08:00As for the MI State ruling tonight, I do think tha...As for the MI State ruling tonight, I do think that the State, has shown that since Stein is not " Aggrieved ", then it may render her filing for a recount to the Federal level a moot topic, so in that sense, it should be dismissed. There was a caveat to count until told otherwise by the Judge. In short, the State of Michigan, now has a strong case to show that Stein has no reason for a recount. Again, this is where Hillary's camp should be sitting, but she won't due to what she said. Hillary is THE only person that could be in any shape aggrieved by todays definition. The Federal judge IMO went a bit rogue. The State can still stop this if they take it to the 6th, with their current ruling about agrievement. All assuming Stein doesn't change the argument, but still a State has a right to select its electoral process.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09444807052569725847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-85436454797458186732016-12-06T21:35:23.799-08:002016-12-06T21:35:23.799-08:00That sounds encouraging. Although all the issues ...That sounds encouraging. Although all the issues with the tampered with ballot boxes in Detroit and so forth are going to lend credence to Goldsmith's feelings of self righteousness I am sure.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02042192614785123032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-34949726012687330902016-12-06T21:19:47.078-08:002016-12-06T21:19:47.078-08:00What is the Repub versus Dem makeup of the 6th en ...What is the Repub versus Dem makeup of the 6th en banc? If you know, thanks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02042192614785123032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-82963361495466193722016-12-06T21:16:34.943-08:002016-12-06T21:16:34.943-08:00Chatty you are right. This is a very corrupt syste...Chatty you are right. This is a very corrupt system right now. I will pray that the Goldsmith will recognize his errors and he has overstepped his boundaries!!! The Republican attorney filed motion tonight in the federal court. One of the Judge David Mackague did stated that Goldsmith has overstepped the boundary. <br /><br />This statement below from the disent give me hope:<br /><br />The 6th Circuit, in affirming Goldsmith's order, said: "If subsequently, the Michigan courts determine the ... recount is improper under Michigan state law for any reason, we expect the district court to entertain any properly filed motions to dissolve or modify this order in this case."Nihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11429346264232694572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-70339006540730187262016-12-06T20:58:29.397-08:002016-12-06T20:58:29.397-08:00The 6th circuit 2-1 decision was not surprising, g...The 6th circuit 2-1 decision was not surprising, given that it was 2D and 1R appointed judge. The 1R judge dissent was blistering. If the Federal District Judge refuses to stop the recount at this point, the AG will then appeal to the entire 6th en banc. It will have to be en banc at this point. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17492796173834807277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-60375035989428286242016-12-06T20:52:10.744-08:002016-12-06T20:52:10.744-08:00Yep all you say is reasonable BUT we are in Black ...Yep all you say is reasonable BUT we are in Black Swan Water here. The courts are corrupt. The vote counting system is a total rat trap. Trump was NOT suppose to win. Every powerful person in Politics and Courts is having paybacks and favors called in. NSA blackmail, personal vendettas it is all going down behind the scenes like rats fighting on a sinking ship. God deliver us from this corrupt system to a new start.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02042192614785123032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-29196935495987073452016-12-06T20:48:16.982-08:002016-12-06T20:48:16.982-08:00I am no lawyer. Anything I write is of opinion. ...I am no lawyer. Anything I write is of opinion. I should make sure nothing is wrongly interpreted. I've kept my ears on afew people at ground zero. I think many feel Stein escalating to the District 6 courts may be more harmful since she skipped the State. PA also, if you noticed. She has totally voided her State suit. I wouldnt think a Constitutional Lawyer would like that, so she went fishing for an Activist judge. She got it in MI, but it threw the State Court into a crux vs States Rights. The people may very well NOT want to foot the extra cost of it either, which was forced by the Fed. Remember also, MI, had their mandatory by law recount too. This is the 3rd.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09444807052569725847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-34422502658030261352016-12-06T20:33:28.387-08:002016-12-06T20:33:28.387-08:00from your mouth to God's earsfrom your mouth to God's earsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02042192614785123032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-28683421854138450372016-12-06T20:28:30.056-08:002016-12-06T20:28:30.056-08:00MI has a certification, which would probably be su...MI has a certification, which would probably be submitted regardless, IMHO... even with the rulings of today. but don't quote me, because it would take a total breakdown of Judiciary to not get this finishedAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09444807052569725847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-83277569183542016772016-12-06T20:20:22.169-08:002016-12-06T20:20:22.169-08:00Ren, here is what the 6th circuits court stated be...Ren, here is what the 6th circuits court stated before the state court issue their hearing:<br /><br />The 6th Circuit, in affirming Goldsmith's order, said: "If subsequently, the Michigan courts determine the ... recount is improper under Michigan state law for any reason, we expect the district court to entertain any properly filed motions to dissolve or modify this order in this case."Nihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11429346264232694572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-28522897773102452412016-12-06T20:18:55.921-08:002016-12-06T20:18:55.921-08:00in short. The Fed judge usurped the States Rights...in short. The Fed judge usurped the States Rights on how to elect their EC.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09444807052569725847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-71834704405507621672016-12-06T20:06:56.950-08:002016-12-06T20:06:56.950-08:00This Info is interesting.
oday's entry: Brian...This Info is interesting. <br />oday's entry: Brian, with all of the recounts going on could the Electoral College vote be held up on the 19th if they're not settled and what would happen if that occurred? <br /> <br />Bottom Line: While this seems complicated because of the difference in voting systems between the states, states laws and recount protocol. The Electoral College vote will be held on December 19th regardless of any unresolved recount efforts. The deadline that matters is also a federal deadline. It's December 13th. Every state must present it's slate of certified electors a week from today. Therefore any recount effort must be complete a week from today or one of two outcomes would occur but the results would be the same regardless... <br /> <br />All states had already certified their votes, therefore the most likely outcome is that the certified electors would be presented based on the original certified vote. <br /> <br />In the extraordinary event of a state not presenting certified electors a week from today, they wouldn't be counted on the 19th. Aside from the extraordinary, and near certain, backlash of voters literally having their certified state election not count due to recount shenanigans by the Green and Democrat parities...The result would still be the same.<br /> <br />Not one, or two but all three of the states would have to have their certified elector's votes not presented for Trump for the outcome to not be decided in the Electoral College on the 19th. Even in that near implausible case, in which neither candidate would have 270 electoral votes, the outcome would be decided in Congress. The US House would decided the President and the US Senate would decide the Vice-President. Given that Republicans control both it'd still be the same outcome. <br /> <br />The only way in which the outcome would be different is if all three recounts occurred to completion and reversed the results in favor of Hillary Clinton. There has never been even one state that's had it's certified votes reversed in a Presidential election recount - let alone three.<br />Btw, at last word out of the Wisconsin recount the net result has been an increase of net votes for Trump thus far. <br /> <br />If you have a topic or question you'd like me to address email me: brianmudd@iheartmedia.com <br /> <br /><br /><br />Read more: http://wjno.iheart.com/onair/local-news-wire-55666/cheat-sheet-qa-what-are-the-15363111/#ixzz4S7cEKBfuAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02042192614785123032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-13783492788792694632016-12-06T19:47:13.506-08:002016-12-06T19:47:13.506-08:00Ren, can you read this from article MI STATE COURT...Ren, can you read this from article MI STATE COURT APPEAL FAVOR THE REPUBLICANS AND ATTORNEY GENERAL... <br />WHAT DO YOU THINK? I respect whst you are trying do here...<br /><br />http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/06/gop-recount-michigan/95031944/Nihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11429346264232694572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-28145578575198518682016-12-06T18:44:21.580-08:002016-12-06T18:44:21.580-08:00Im telling you right now with absolute certainty, ...Im telling you right now with absolute certainty, we are seeing a total collapse of the rule of statutory law. None of these cases are even remotely close and the arguments, briefs and jurisdictional defects are shocking. This is a political coup d'etat. The rules of procedure, ethical conduct, precedent, statutory construction, state ct/federal ct mutuality...all of it is being gutted to run down the clock to dec 12 safe harbor... See my next post. It will be righteously disrespectful and cloaked in authority.Ren Jander Researchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15254808527862317837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5277610164586846215.post-34068844384991389552016-12-06T18:25:19.272-08:002016-12-06T18:25:19.272-08:00you know i hated it both times when obama got it e...you know i hated it both times when obama got it elected but I just sucked it up and quit watching tv news entirely because of the gloating and bias. I didn't scream yell and have a meltdown. there was no recount mania, no court cases. and all this advice about how to act over the holidays. i went to holidays and put up with obama crap for years. the left is truly all about projection and vanity. they cannot imagine that we felt the same about obama and clintons that they feel about trump.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02042192614785123032noreply@blogger.com